Belgian terror attack: the authorities knew beforehand

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:52 am
From one of Israel's biggest newspapers:
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.710572

The Belgian security services, as well as other Western intelligence agencies, had advance and precise intelligence warnings regarding the terrorist attacks in Belgium on Tuesday, Haaretz has learned.

The security services knew, with a high degree of certainty, that attacks were planned in the very near future for the airport and, apparently, for the subway as well.


Why is it that the intelligence agencies seem to almost always know exactly where these attacks will happen beforehand? They often know when they are coming, where, who, the nature of the attack, and they often train for it before.

If money-drenched intelligence agencies exist to protect their respective countries and to interdict all conceivable harm, then why do we have them? Seriously. But my question is purposefully loaded and flawed, isn't it? Imagine if my hypothetical premise, followed by the question, is not a proven fact.

Here's a more constructive premise leading to serious lines of inquiry: Maybe Western intelligence agencies aren't so uselessly incompetent as constantly depicted year after year.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:59 am
Clearly, the President is quite concerned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Aires.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:52 pm
Heli wrote:Clearly, the President is quite concerned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Aires.html


Wow, the pics tell a pretty big story. Incredible. I liked how the pics included those of Argentinian protestors telling Obama to go home.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:11 pm
The Daily Mail comes in handy especially in the photography department. Here the mail has pics of the biggest European emergency drill so far for a mock terrorist strike.

Three weeks before the Belgian attacks, this happened. Look at the pics closely.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z43lMRQ1Re

In Belgium, on the morning of 22 March 2016, we are told ISIS terrorists detonated bombs in the Brussels airport and Maalbeek metro station nearby. Earlier, the emergency drill photographed by the Mail also took place at a metro station. One will notice the gigantic effort that went into the drill: hundreds of crisis actors covered in very realistic moulage (make-up), including actors who are amputees made to look like their loss of limbs just happened; mock-destroyed assets only seen on the best movie sets; hundreds of emergency response workers.

What it all means, I can't say for sure at this time. But it sure is quite a coincidence. And it keeps with the theme that before major terrorist strikes happen, there are big drills for the very same kind of strike (in this case, metro station bombing). However, the drill in question happened three weeks before and in another country....

Last of all, I like the comments below the Mail article. The posters are suspicious and are wondering if a metro station bombing will happen soon after. It turns out they were right.

Amazing make-up and sets...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:31 pm
People video record the darnedest things

Some observant people online have noticed a bizarre detail from the video footage coming from the March 22 Belgian bombings. It may prove to be one of many such anomalies, if we keep in mind previous problems with high-profile violent events.

Here is a video of the smoke-filled airport with "panic immediately after the blast." For the anomaly jump forward to 1:13. You will notice a man on his knees wearing a checkered shirt. He happens to lift an immobile 'thing' that resembles an infant child. One notices that this thing seems more like a dummy or a doll approximating the shape of an infant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxoJ3PAEvk

I wonder why a grown man, apparently with a female adult partner, is trying to flee the airport with a stage dummy or a doll. There is a baby carriage next to them. But several people online have noted that it is not a real human baby. An unconscious baby does not behave like a rigid lump of plastic with limbs locked in position. It dangles, slumps, and moves with movement.

The mother passes the dummy/doll to the man, who we may presume is the father. It actually falls to the ground for a split-second when she passes it over, and then he picks it up.


More from The Mirror:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... th-7607138

Crouching down, a father gently cradles his baby moments after its buggy was thrown over from the force of a bomb at Brussels airport.

The dad kneels down and appears to check over his baby, who seems to be on the floor, before scooping him up in his arms to safety.

The mother is seen gathering their belongings together frantically.


Checks it over? Scoops it from the floor into his safety? Gently cradles his dummy?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:46 pm
One week before the Belgian bombings
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... -happened/


Turkey has been hit by terrorist bombings lately. The authoritarian leader of Turkey, Erdogan, who has a very suspicious relationship with terrorists, made an announcement one week before the Mar 22 bombings in Brussels.

There is no reason for the bomb which exploded in Ankara not to explode in Brussels, where an opportunity to show off in the heart of the city to supporters of the terror organization is presented, or in any city in Europe. Despite this clear reality, European countries are paying no attention, as if they are dancing in a minefield. You can never know when you are stepping on a mine. But it is clear that this is an inevitable end.


Erdogan claims to have warned the Belgian intel services in much more detail, just as he claimed to have warned the French intel services before the Paris attack.

My thoughts on the matter is that all parties mentioned in these NATO countries know much more than they're publicly saying.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:14 pm
The CCTV security camera footage of the Belgium bombings is from the Moscow airport bombing and Minsk subway bombings, both from 2011

To depict the Mar 22 Belgium airport blast, some Western media such as CNN originally aired the "bomb blast" from the 24th January 2011 Domodedovo International Airport in Moscow, along with the evacuation footage directly after the Minsk, Belarus bombing.

Then other media were quick to blame the incorrect footage on amateur hoaxers. Not CNN. Yes, amateur hoaxers are active in this event, but so is CNN. Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIiuhNP3lfU

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/v ... -1.2573139

http://globalnews.ca/news/2593047/bruss ... m-belgium/

The Minsk subway and Moscow airport bombings of 2011:
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/03/cnn ... tacks.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9wDA0BxAa8

So far, there are no released security camera videos of the actual Belgian bombings. This is very strange. Why can't they release videos of the blasts? Even one second each, with no gore?

There are videos from many other bombings online. Why not these? There's cameras everywhere.... Nothing is missed. Where are the explosions?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:04 am
Photos of the 'victims'

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A woman with her son wanders in front of cameras. Onlookers don't appear to be too alarmed or helpful.

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The same pair, still wandering, getting their photos taken.

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From a video, I think. Man with briefcase doesn't even pause to consider the supposedly mangled man at his feet. He keeps going, unconcerned. In the background, a third man is busy getting a luggage cart. Any sane person would stop to help the obvious 'victim' on the ground. The camera woman, a Georgian photographer I found out, does nothing to help. She just walks around. Click, click. Can't help you.

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A so-called 'iconic' photo. Two women sit with unidentified injuries. The 2nd one definitely has had a wardrobe malfunction. Possibly half of the clothes on her torso have been blown off and yet her skin seems fine. She seems to be in a 'post-blast' pose. One shoe on, one off. Judging by her face, the woman on the left is having a nice conversation on her cel. Whatever injury she may or may not have does not seem to be a problem. People were exiting the blast area. I guess they decided to stay to get their pic taken.

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Empty stretcher outside the airport

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Exact same stretcher pixelated as if to censor a victim that is not there.

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This victim looks okay. He is wrapped up, ready for baking.

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This airport worker has allegedly received a head wound, although his skin and uniform are spotless. Very tidy.

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This man is supposedly very injured. He's altogether ignored. A couple decides to smooch next to him.

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Can't determine what is happening here. Some people are on the ground outside the metro.

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This man has red liquid on his skin which may or may not be blood. No laceration or puncture stands out.

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Above we have an admitted crisis actor -- probably getting paid $100 for a day's work for roleplaying in Europe's biggest emergency response drill ever staged. A few rips, some stage make-up and silicone gel wounds. Good to go as realistic.

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Here's his friend from the same exercise. Fake wound. Make-up job probably by done by a contractor or the local theater company. Very realistic work.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:30 pm
Looks like the interwebs is very suspicious of the Belgium event


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFgWJ4JTIWs

Read the comments. There's an avalanche of comments saying this event was staged.

Welcome to Pauline Graystone. One day after the event, even the Channel 4 interviewer guy notes how chipper she is after presumably being right next to several obliterated bodies. Here is her career summary:
http://www.eumanagementtraining.eu/facilitators/pg/

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:13 pm
Mormon missionary Mason Wells was at the Boston Bombing, the Paris attacks, and now the Belgium airport bombing

What are the odds? Stats experts say the chance of being caught up in a terror attack is about 4 times as fluky as being struck by lightning. I wonder what the chances of being caught up in three terrorist attacks? The odds start getting astronomical. Granted the details are that Mason Wells was actually 1 block away from the Boston bombing and not all that close to the Paris attacks.

Nonetheless, he is something of a statistical anomaly for being in or at least near three terrorist strikes in three separate cities in three years.
https://www.inverse.com/article/13386-w ... st-attacks
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35879504
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... mbing.html
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-l ... ab4a8a022c

But it's the interview with Mason Wells that is even weirder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqukzIvhnWM

In his own words, he said he got bad burns to his hands and face, but he's not missing any of his eyebrows? Dude, those hairs are the first to go....


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