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Big Fakery in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBlgiaNQsCE

Fake blood. Crisis actors. Co-opted nurses. BBC caught faking reports. Fake funerals. Fake humanitarian organizations. And more! This RT report has very valuable video footage and documents showing the extent of the deception.

Nothing like a big cup of fake to get the war juices flowing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:07 pm
Gaddafi's warnings from the grave

Colonel Gaddafi warned Tony Blair of Islamist attacks on Europe, phone conversations reveal. Transcripts of two telephone conversations between the two leaders which took place on February 25, 2011, are made public.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... ealed.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-0 ... lair-terro

I'd like to read more about Gaddafi, Libya, and its struggles with the Western powers (and the terrorists which those powers support).

Gaddafi is one of the many so-called 'little Hitlers' the USGov named and eventually overthrew. The truth is much more complex, and hardly Hitler-ish. If the War on Terror, and now the War against ISIS, were real, Gaddafi should have been our #1 buddy in North Africa. Gaddafi was both a target of and a sworn enemy of Al Qaeda. Later, his government was the first to fight the Salafists who went on to form ISIS.

Gaddafi, a secular anti-Islamist, warned the West that these bastards were coming for them. Poor Gaddafi found out all too late that the Islamic SOBs in his country and in Syria were in fact funded and controlled by the very same rich white guys he was warning. Irony score = 93 out of a 100.

Why was Gaddafi whacked in 2011? Why did NATO send the terrorists and missiles after him in a mafia-like hit? There's no actual solid proof his govt was involved with the Lockerbie terrorist incident long ago, despite the shaky official stories and Reagan-era fantasies. Gaddafi gave up his WMD program. He gave up spreading around arms in Africa. He got friendlier with most everyone. He got more into handing out money, jobs, and services to his citizens.

Besides fighting against terrorism, racism, sexism, and poverty, Gaddafi engaged in one fight that totally destroyed him and his regime. He had a plan, along with the leaders in Tunisia, to create a new gold based currency for North Africa, with a central bank outside of the influence of the Western banking interests. Not long after these plans were discovered, he was being dragged through the streets in a bloody pulp and the anti-Gaddafi rebels (Salafist terrorists from Benghazi) were setting up a new central bank 100% hooked up with the Western system.

That's the War of Terror for you. It's not about fighting terrorists or spreading democracy (Libya is currently in complete chaos, rocked by terrorism, and run by Islamic clan nutcases). The War of Terror is the PR gimmick for the Western powers to go ape-shyt on anyone they want to, anytime they want, so their mafia control remains intact. In the case of Libya or Iraq or Syria or Ukraine, they have no interest in taking control or even offering Western rewards and protection. They just destabilize the places and then let them go to hell, while throwing scraps to the chief puppets.

Who's wearing the consequences of the ruination? Mainly common Europeans who never wanted any of this.
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Risking Nuclear War for Al Qaeda?
February 18, 2016
by Robert Parry
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/18/r ... -al-qaeda/

Parry has been around forever, having gained initial notoriety for spilling all sorts of Iran-Contra juiciness back in the 80s. Here he offers a good analysis of the current situation in the Middle East.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia are getting much more vocal in saying that President Bashar of Syria must go, and that they are prepared to use force. The problem is, Iran and Russia are now irretrievably invested in the conflict to defend Syria. They will not back down.

Saudi Arabia is currently hosting a massive military exercise along its northern border, Operation Northern Thunder, featuring 150,000 troops. Turkey has its military on high alert, and has recently been shelling Kurdish troops near the Syria-Turkey border.

Parry suggests that if these two belligerents invade Syria, Russia may take the gloves off and use tactical nuclear weapons to obliterate the invading armies. Russia has an enormous investment in Syria, with 20,000 personnel involved. It might do anything to protect its 'foreign expedition'.

The USA is now in a pickle. While saying it wants Assad gone too, the USGov is actually assisting the Kurds, who are actually fighting both ISIS and Turk-Saudi proxy fighters (and these latter guys are in turn fighting Syria's Assad, thus making the Kurds tentatively pro-Assad). This has enraged Turkey, a country that wants to wipe out all Kurds.

The rumour is that the Pentagon/DIA faction of the gov is no longer anti-Assad and has decided (late in the game) it wants to actually fight ISIS; while the State Dept/CIA/White House is anti-Assad and for secretly helping ISIS and the Turk-Saudi terrorists. That's a rumour, but it has legs because the Pentagon/DIA has of late leaked damaging information vs the CIA/White House concerning their Syrian misadventures.

Whatever the case, if the Saudis and Turks go full retard, then Russia and Iran will go full retard, and the Saudis and Turks will demand that the USA intervene to save their asses. The Middle East will literally explode. Any sober leader in the USA is well advised not to gamble with millions of lives and trillions of dollars to start up World War III.... because of a bunch of foreign jackasses.
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Hillary Clinton State Dept Emails published by Wikileaks about the Syrian crisis

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/em ... #efmADMAFf


As in the case of all wars, we were fed a wide platter of lies of why this crisis emerged, why the USGov wanted to intervene, and so forth, and why now the whole region is screwed and trying to move to Europe and North America. Hillary's own emails explain that the pursuit of regime change in Syria would, among other things*, greatly assist Israel.



There is a whole political-media industry publicly denying the depth of the Israeli factor in American foreign policy. Strangely, there is an associated industry which formulates intricate plans to pressure America into wiping out Israel's old enemies. The most public is the Neoconservative political group, whose plans have been on-again, off-again adopted by both the Bush and Obama regimes. They liked Hillary because she implemented NeoCon plans, such as devastating Syria and Libya. Hillary is praised widely by the NeoCons. They claim to not like Trump, and one of their leaders, Bill Kristol, claims he will sabotage Trump with a 3rd party candidate. But we'll see.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:38 am
In-depth article on how allied foreign powers, especially the USGov, started their regime change operation in Syria

The day before Deraa: How the war broke out in Syria
http://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa ... deraa.html

The Uprising in Deraa, Syria (March 2011) was a well-planned covert op staged by the CIA, whose operatives were based nearby in Jordan. Fresh from their regime change op in Libya, the White House ordered the CIA to move tons of weapons and terrorists from Benghazi to Deraa. That small agricultural town in Syria was ground zero, or as the author calls it: "Act 1: Scene 1" of a 'Hollywood style script...'

Once the uprising spread and the Damascus regime responded, more foreign intel operators, terrorists, and disenfranchised locals went to work throughout the country. Mercenaries and criminals flooded in. At least a dozen countries, fighting for or against Assad, established influence in Syria either through their proxy gangs or by way of direct intervention.

It's been 5 years now. At least 50% of the country has been laid waste, with foreign money and weapons continuing to spill in and affect "regime change". Obama, Hillary, Kerry, along with certain Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress -- not to mention corresponding politicians in Europe and the Middle East -- should be held responsible for breaking numerous international laws, as well as lying to their citizens and wasting their hard-earned taxpayer dollars on mass-murder. Compensation should be found for Syrian refugees, to rebuild and to return to Syria. Personally, I think the money should be taken, by decree of a high court of law, right from the culpable politicians, draining them of every cent they own. That would be a start at putting things right.
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I like how this article tries to pussy-foot around and almost apologize for the fact that the USGov is arming a branch of Al Qaeda, and accepting them as part of the insurgents vs the Syrian government. It has been a fact in the public sphere for years, in fact.

It's been known for years that weapons to 'moderate insurgents' -- if there are any at all -- wind up with an Al Qaeda affiliate and ISIS (Daesh). In fact, both groups have absorbed so many US arms that one could genuinely say they are American mercenary armies by now.


http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/sy ... Ck.twitter

The affiliate is a well-known terrorist outfit called Jabhat Al-Nusra, aka The Nusra Front. It also is in an erratic alliance with ISIS. Nusra has changed their name and re-branded themselves recently to look nice, despite their ongoing strategy of suicide bombers and torture.

How can anyone take the USGov seriously when it is buddies with Al Qaeda and by extension ISIS? Keep that in mind when the daily dose of propaganda babbles through the TV news.

More:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/arming-syr ... ns/5325826
http://fair.org/home/reporting-or-not-t ... affiliate/
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 19370.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... HO20150926
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3495 ... ar-endgame
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/12/ ... 451232210/
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