ISIS and the wars in Syria and Iraq

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:51 am
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-destru ... te/5386998

Professor Michel Chossudovsky, the excitable academic from Montreal, gets it right again.


Long story short:

Saudi Arabia and certain Gulf States, flush with oil money, funded these ISIS idiots. You see, the Western intelligence groups use their friends, the oil sheiks, as proxies to funnel in the money and the BS, the arms and the training.

The goal was to use these and other terrorists to bring down the Assad regime in Syria. Well, the Assad regime has become very popular amongst its people because it has hammered the NATO-Sheik project to use terrorists to take over Syria. Need to kill terrorists? Phone up Assad and his Russian and Iranian advisers. They love killing gangsters in black pajamas on the Saudi and CIA payrolls.

So the secret oil Sheikies and their Western intelligence boys in NATO apparently decided to aim part of the anti-Assad terrorists at Iraq. All the while they claimed they were against ISIS. They even claimed they were getting "moderate" anti-Assad forces to attack ISIS.

What a load. If that were true, ISIS would have gone buh-bye in a few weeks.

Even the president of Iraq, Maliki, openly said that the Gulf States (Saudis and Qataris) are funding the terrorists who his US-trained army is skirmishing with.

So, somehow, 800 to 1000 ISIS fighters moved from Syria right into the heart of Iraq, "conquering" everything they came across. The CIA, NSA, and Pentagon had 'no idea' how they did it. Oh noes, it happened so fast. We missed it with our $200 billion intelligence budgets! We're so incompetent (again)! Please believe us, suckers.

Here's another load: The Iraqi government had 2 full divisions -- 30,000 men -- standing in the way of ISIS. They ran. They all got out of the area and handed over the city of Mosul without a single battle fought. Out of the 30,000, wouldn't at least 4,000 to 5,000 brave men (with good US equipment and good defensive positions) decide to mow down the 800 to 1000 ISIS fighters?

Believe it or not, there are some brave pro-Iraq military men who are comfortable shooting alongside American soldiers -- not shooting at them -- to defend their post Saddam country.

But no. The Iraqi commanders themselves ordered their men to depart from the city of Mosul. It wasn't mass treason or cowards abandoning their posts, as the Western media is trying to hype. For the most part, they were ordered to depart. Ordered by men who had become good friends with their American brass counterparts.

The Professor believes this entire shift in affairs was supervised by cynical intelligence operatives taking orders from the West and Saudi Arabia.

Not that I am pro-war, but let's face it. The ISIS 'conquest' of northern Iraq could have been smeared out of existence with US airstrikes followed by an Iraqi army mop-up, perhaps assisted by a dozen Black-hawks full of Rangers. These ragtag ISIS guys would have gone down hard and fast. 24 hour operation to break them. The survivors would be running all the way to Benghazi or thrown in a rendition prison.

This whole thing stinks. It's staged. 800-1000 men in black masks cannot take over northern Iraq, not even Mosul pop 1million+, unless US-NATO and Saudi powers permit it to happen. No, permit is not the correct word. More than that. Facilitated and helped it happen.

What's the game here? Not sure yet, but usually much more than meets the eye. For starters, let's say that money and oil might be factors, along with a desire to keep the wars going.
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The leader of ISIS was released in 2009

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014 ... ed-in-2009

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-ago.html



al Baghdadi

What an absurd name. The new bin Laden! So this is yet another gangster they apparently flipped in prison and became a warlord under their supervision. Thanks for all the money and AKs, bitches. Time to play black pajama party and enforce sharia law.

This happens like every few months they release guys who end up furthering their plans down the road.. What a coincidence.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:29 am
What are...

THE SECRETS OF ISIS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLIDeaK6kvA
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:46 pm
Blowback! Oh noes!

Good news. The latest nonsense on 'the ISIS' horde is out.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u- ... in-jordan/

The US imperial forces of Barack Vader were not only kind enough to release the leader of THE ISIS from prison; they were also kind enough to train forces of THE ISIS in a seeecret base in Jordan, and quite possibly a second around NATO Incirlik Air Base in Turkey.

We're supposed to believe this is BLOWBACK. Oh, what a scary concept. What a horrible coincidence. You train a bunch of losers, give them weapons, black pajamas, battle plans, and tell them to go after the Assad regime in Syria. You go, girls!

What do they do? Instead, they go after the Maliki regime in Iraq. And the US imperial forces had no idea this was going on. The evil ISIS forces defied their ignorant, imperial overlords and performed operation BLOWBACK. It went on for like a year, and Lord Barack, Sith-bitch Hillary, and Horse Kerry simply were caught way, way off guard.

In comes the mighty ISIS forces -- almost a thousand armed men, OMG driving Mitsubishi flat-beds and old milk trucks :shock: -- and everyone was so scared and caught off guard! Run for your freakin life, Chewy!

Even though newspapers in Lebanon, Syria, Iran and other countries were loudly declaring that the mighty ISIS was on the move for like weeks, the incredibly complex intel machinery of the imperial forces couldn't quite pick this up. Even though they had drone photos, satellite photos, video from informants, and no doubt spies traveling along with them, the US imperials still couldn't figure it out.

It has to be incompetence. Gotta be. It has to be blowback! Right out of nowhere! :!: :shock:

I'm glad that the Imperial media has properly edu-macated the people at home on what's happening here. They would never portray a false picture of what's happening, all colluding together to deceive you, would they? Thank the Death Star, it would be too impossible. Too much of a conspearzy
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The 2003 invasion and 10 yr occupation of Iraq has been extremely expensive in terms of lives, taxpayer money, and the honour of both countries.

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-4,801 US soldiers were killed; tens of thousands were injured in some manner.
-1.45 million Iraqis were killed during the 10 yr period, mainly non-combatants

-The war cost the US taxpayers roughly $1.2 trillion dollars or even much more, depending on who you read.

-Iraq was saturated with America's WMD weapons: depleted uranium. Both US forces and Iraqis suffered from this radioactive poison.

-Years after invasion, an end to organized armed resistance to US troops was accomplished by bribing the Sunni tribes in Iraq. They are both Saddam Hussein's old supporters and the new supporters of ISIS.

-Iraq suffered a ethno-religious civil war. Several academic reports claimed that the civil war was guided by the Western and Saudi powers for their purposes, one of which was to justify the ongoing occupation.

-During this long period, the 'rebuilding' of Iraq took place. It was proven that most of these funds were stolen and misallocated, but many billions apparently were stolen by covert Western agencies.

-The Iraqi national army was finally formed. Every penny was paid for by the US taxpayers. It became a somewhat modern army, with some advanced equipment. Whole divisions were formed.


Now....


After all that struggle and sacrifice, ISIS has been allowed to conquer nearly half the country.

Armed and trained by the USA and Saudis, they came in unopposed. Numbering no more 1000 men, they're unstoppable and have proclaimed a Caliphate.

No one is interested in stopping them, save for Iraq's president, who is rallying a defensive position around Baghdad.

Anyone make sense of this?

I can. America and Saudi Arabia want this to happen.
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Russia to the Rescue

The Kremlin dwellers are not only great opportunists and strategists, but they just have an irrepressible need to counter the USGov's manipulations. More so than ever before after the USGov started a revolution and civil war on Russia's doorstep (Ukraine).

Iraq Receives First Fighter Jets From "Our Russian Friends"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-3 ... an-friends

Who is interested in really blowing up terrorists? That would be Russia and their brutal Syrian bros. Russia is helping Iraq's legit gov. Not America, a country whom the Iraqi government accuses of betrayal. All the US soldiers who fought for a stable, friendly Iraq can now thank Russia for defending their work.

Five Su-25 ground support jets are being readied to fly to protect the government in Iraq as I type this. They will spearhead a counter-offensive to blow the living hell out of ISIS. I'd like to see what one of these jets would do to a black pajama party.

Washington DC better act fast or their Iraqi satellite might fall into the orbit of their new Russian friends, who happen to have influence in Syria and Iran as well.

The first delivery of Russian Sukhoi fighter jets arrived in Iraq on Saturday, the country’s Defense Ministry said. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is hoping the jets will make a key difference in the fight against ISIS.

The Iraqi Ministry of Defense on Sunday confirmed receiving five Su-25 fighter jets in accordance with the deal with Moscow. The jets were delivered by a Russian An-124 transport plane in a dismantled state, and are expected to be set up and become operational within 3-4 days.

“The Sukhoi Su-25 is an air-ground support and anti-terrorism mission aircraft. In these difficult times, we are in great need of such aircraft. With God’s help, we will be able to deploy them to support our ground forces on a mission against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant militants within the next 3-4 days,” Iraqi Army Lieutenant General Anwar Hamad Amen Ahmed told RT’s Ruptly news agency at an airport receiving the jets.



“We have experienced pilots and other professionals. Our Russian friends have also sent their own experts to assist us in preparing the aircraft. All the logistics have been planned for as well,” the lieutenant general said.

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At the same time, Maliki criticized the US for taking too long to deliver on its own contract after Iraq purchased F-16 jets from America.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:22 pm
Russia Delivers 2nd Batch of Jets To Iraq As USA Unloads 4000 Hellfire Missiles
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-0 ... e-missiles

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-0 ... tants.html

"Russian friends" are sending another five Su-25 ground attack jets to Baghdad, for a total of 10. The USA claims it will send a giant wad of hellfire missiles also to reinforce Iraq's counter-insurgency.

Some, like me, think that the Russians are very eager to befriend the Maliki gov in Baghdad and very eager to see their enemies get blown up by Russian hardware -- so eager that a Russian pilot or two just might fly along with the Iraqis (some say it happened before in the Middle East wars of 1967 and 1973).

Whereas others say the Obama admin might drag their arses a bit on delivering all those promised hellfire missiles. After all, they trained ISIS (or ISIL) in two of their bases, and don't want to disappear too fast. They also might apply more pressure to see Iraqi president Maliki go bye-bye.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:35 pm
The Iranians weigh in

Iran army chief accuses the USA and Israel of creating ISIS
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-a ... SIS-359875

http://www.tehrantimes.com/politics/116 ... -commander

According to this cat, ISIS or ISIL is currently controlled by the USA and Israel. He made the political decision to not include Saudi Arabia, in my opinion, because he is still hoping for a lessening of tensions between Iran and the Saudi Arabia.

What a mess. Whatever the case, even Washington DC can't dismiss these allegations; to some extent the planners have already admitted to funding/training ISIS earlier.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:06 pm
Former al-Qaeda Commander: ISIS Works for the CIA

http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-al-q ... e-cia.html

Nabil Na’eem, the founder of the Islamic Democratic Jihad Party and former top al-Qaeda commander, told the Beirut-based pan-Arab TV station al-Maydeen all current al-Qaeda affiliates, including ISIS, work for the CIA.


Here is Na'eem explaining it in his own words in an interview in Beirut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEuJ5v3AbJg#t=98

English Transcript:
http://www.syrianews.cc/isis-the-bombsh ... ach-obama/


The plan:
http://www.infowars.com/isis-and-the-pl ... ddle-east/



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Between this and the border... it's quite the screwed-up mess we have going on right now.

Oh, don't forget the VA.
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